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The Lynde Pedigree

Pedigree of Lynde The earliest portion of this Pedigree will be found in Hutchin's History of Dorset (3rd Ed. p188.191).  It commences with Robert de la Lynde 1157 and terminates with the death of the son and heir of Sir George de la Lynde in that year.  At his death all estates - and they were numerous - nominated the three sisters of Sir George as co-heirs and they were lost to the family of Lynde. The Pedigree has been very carefully prepared and there is no reason to doubt its correctness as far as it goes in any respect.  But it seems mainly to follow the extracts and omits one very important particular.  In Vol.1.p. Hutchins states that "By Isolda, his wife, daughter and Co heir of John Herying "he (John Lynde) was the father of John de la Lynde his heir, who was one of the co heirs of John Herying being 21 years old and upwards, 4th February 34 Henry VI John de la Lynde, the son, presented to the church of Clenstone 1467, 1473 & 1476. and by his wife Elizabeth who seems to have been a daughter of a Martin of Athelhampton who joined him in presenting to Clenstone in 1473.  He had three children, Sir Thomas, his son, their eldest. Now in presenting to Clenstone in 1476 he is called "John Lynde, Sen. Esquire" this can only mean that he had a son John, which fact Hutchin's has omitted to mention and it is from this John, that we claim to be descended.  Of course this John would not present to Clenstone as he had an elder brother Thomas who presented in 1497 1502 and 1503 whose son also Thomas, presented in 1570 and 1519.* * Note - John Herying, Lord of Winterbourne, Clenstone presented in 1419. 1435, 1437 and 1453: and his widow Joan presented in 1456. The second portion of this Pedigree begins with the last mentioned John and will be proved from the Hare Mss at the British Museum. There are three Hare Mss - 1.  1539 Fo 19?? 2.  1982 Fo 3.  5800 folios 3, 4 and 5 They all agree to the following:- Sir Thomas de la Lynde I John de la Lynde == daughter and heir of Heringham (Herying)      I               John de la Lynde === Margaret Tittley         I     William de la Lynde === Margaret Ashurst    I Oliver de la Lynde === Agnes Rooks         I Cuthbert de la Lynde Now these Pedigrees are so much alike that it is probable they are copies of one another, especially as the same errors occur in all of them.  Thomas did not have a son who married the heir of Heringham and this son was not the father but the grandfather of the John who married Margaret Tittley. For amplification we will call:- John who married Isolda Herying John (Isolda) John who married Elizabeth Martin John (Martin) John who married Margaret Tittley John (Tittley) If those Mss are incorrect in two items, it may reasonably be suspected that they are incorrect in other particulars and are of no value as proofs.  In order to prove these mistakes it is only necessary to refer to the before mentioned Presentations to the living of Winterbourne Clenstone.  These Presentations prove the correctness of the Pedigree as given in Hutchins Dorset and the incorrectness of the three Mss. so far as the first three generations are concerned, but all three Mss. agree that John (Tittley) was the son of a John.  As to the remaining portions of the Mss. there are fortunately two Mss. which confirm their correctness. 1.  Hare Mss. 6128 Fo 1096 2.  Hare Mss (Visitation of Warwick) 1563 1619 Fo. 233 Both of these Mss. show that John (Tittley) had a son William who married Margaret Ashurst and that they had a son Oliver who married Agness Rookes.  The first of these two Mss. gives Oliver a son Cuthbert whilst the other one omits him from the list of Olivers sons. Now we have to connect John (Tittley) with John (Martin).  John Martin on the 30th March 1476 presented to Clenstone as "John Lynde - Senior Esq."  therefore he had a son John.  The first three Mss. all say that John (Tittley) was the son of John Lynde who they say married the daughter heir of Heringham, but however John (Tittley) was her grandson, his parents being John (Martin) and Elizabeth. Hare Mss. 1982 FO. 67 shows there was a connection between the de la Lyndes of Clenstone and the de la Lyndes of Shrewsbury and calls John (Tittley) de la Lynde of Shrewsbury. William Derrick in his Pedigree says he was the second son of John (Isolda).  As a fact he was not the second son but the second grandson.  The mistake is easily accounted for.  John on his marriage became heir of John Herying but as he died during John Heryings lifetime, his son John (Martin) became heir of John Herying and the compilers of the three first Mss. were confused by the fact that both fathers and sons bore the same name, John and that both were heirs of John Herying. A diagram will be the best means of showing it. John Herying === Joan I I I              John Lynde === Isolda Herying I      Hutchins I I              John Lynde === Elizabeth Martin I       I            ----------------------------            I      I Sir Thomas Lynde    John Lynde === Margaret Tittley   I I                I William Lynde === Margaret Ashurst   I    I                                            I     All in 5 Mss. Oliver Lynde === Agness Rooks     I            I              I Cuthbert Lynde              I The third portion of the Pedigree now commences with Cuthbert and goes straight down to the present day, being proved by certificates of Baptism marriage and Burial, Books of Binding and Freedom Books of various London Companies, and other contemporaneous evidence.

David Mager

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